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8 Tips for a Kinder, Gentler

And More Profitable Downtown Meeting

Profile By Bob Andelman

(Originally published in the Association Meetings, 1994)

America's downtowns are a diverse lot. Some never sleep; some tuck in the sidewalks after 5 p.m. But whether it's the hustle and bustle of Chicago or the southern gentility of Tampa, there's something about downtown that keeps drawing associations back.


Okay, maybe it's just that most convention centers are built downtown, or that if you're putting on a big meeting, the only place with enough rooms to satisfy your attendees is downtown. But still you plan, still you go.


No meeting location is goof-proof, but we've put together a 8-point plan for getting more out of your next downtown association meeting.

Give your attendees a chance to see the city
Planners pick downtown properties when they're looking for the ambiance of an entire city. That could be Toronto; it could be Norfolk. What's important is that sense of place that a one-day, fly-in, fly-out airport meeting doesn't offer.


"It's an overall feeling of having more to do in a downtown facility than being 'stuck' someplace like an airport," explains Patricia Dwyer, director of meetings and trade show for the International Dairy Foods Association in Washington, D.C.


Dwyer, who plans for four affiliated associations, often uses downtown Chicago for big meetings. But she also made San Antonio, TX, work for her "because it's so convenient to all the attractions."


She's the exception; over and over again, hotel sales managers complained to Association Meetings about planners who take a big meeting to their downtown location but don't allow attendees enough time to catch a breath of carbon monoxide fumes outside, let alone explore their surroundings.


"For a downtown, midtown Manhattan experience, I don't think meeting planners give attendees enough time," says Dave Keys, director of sales and marketing for the New York Hilton. "The serious conferences pack so much in, 8 a.m.-6 p.m., that, other than a cocktail reception, they don't give people enough time. They put so much emphasis on education, but they need to build in time for people to enjoy the destination and bond."


He's got a point; why go to the Big Apple if you're not going to the top of the Empire State Building or take the ferry to the Statute of Liberty?


That's been a problem for Melanie Myers, director of meetings and conventions for the American Traffic Safety Services Association, which is headquartered in Fredericksburg, VA. "Our program is just so filled, we don't have a lot of free time," she says. "I always receive a lot of information about local culture and art, but we don't have a lot of time to do that." Myers did arrange the schedule for her latest meeting in San Antonio so attendees could enjoy an off-property bus tour. "It's a fun place," she says.


Every annual meeting of the National Bar Association is held at downtown locations, from Seattle to Baltimore and St. Louis and Indianapolis in between. "My members are not airport hotel people," says Stephanie Dudley, director of conferences for the National Bar Association in Washington, DC. "Our annual meeting is a week-long event. They like to step out, go shopping, be in the thick of things."


Sometimes, members have a way of telling you they want more time-outs without actually telling you.


"Sometimes our meal ticket sales will be down," Dudley says. "When you have your planned functions in the hotel, they don't want to eat all their meals there when they can walk some place better and less expensive. Why would you stay in the Hilton or Sheraton when you could go to a deli and get a real flavor of the city? Some people will even buy the ticket and still not come. They're going to go out."


What may surprise many planners is that your host hotel wants your attendees out on the town.


"We need the meeting or convention to be successful," says John Fenton, director of communications for the Philadelphia Marriott. "If the group is in town for five days, we could convince the group to cater every meal on the premises. But the reality is, Philadelphia has so much to offer, if the attendee doesn't get out, they're not going to want to come back. If that's the case, why not go to Louisville next year? There has to be a balance. If they don't get the opportunity to get out, they might as well be at the airport."


Ty Helms, director of sales and marketing for the 2,019-room Hyatt Regency Chicago, has taken the approach that if you can't keep 'em at the hotel, join 'em on the road. "With the dining and nightlife options in Chicago, we can't expect to keep everybody on the property," he says. "So we developed a subsidiary company called Regency Caterers, which can do catering at a variety of sites, from the museums to the airports to private homes." His motto: "The city is our ballroom." If associations go off-premises, the hotel can still be the benefactor.


Fenton and Helms take this attitude because they're selling their cities as destinations, not the hotels by themselves. "It's us against another major city," Helms explains.


Don't underestimate the eagerness of the local CVB to give your people an unforgettable night on the town.


"San Francisco is such a strong destination," says Tom Pucci, director of sales and marketing for the Sir Francis Drake Hotel in the Union Square district. "I think the bureaus give them sufficient information; I just don't know that they look at it. But meeting planners miss what's happening locally that's indigenous to us.

They don't know there's a street festival going on this week. That's something that sets us apart; it's something you'll never do again and it's very San Francisco."

Don't roll up at 5 p.m. just because the sidewalks do!
If you're going into a downtown that turns into a ghost town after business hours, don't expect your attendees will turn in early to suit local sensibilities. There are many alternatives a city has to offer that just may not be obvious to out-of-town guests.


"San Jose was like that," Myers says. "It's a nice town, but there's not a lot to do. Our people drove up to San Francisco for fun."
Pick the right downtown for your group. Denver is an artsy city. Minneapolis is cosmopolitan. St. Louis rolls up the sidewalks after 5 p.m.


"I put a Growing Churches Conference in downtown Denver once," says Lynne Neuman, manager of travel and meeting planning for the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod in St. Louis. "Not that it was a bad experience, but Denver is an avant-garde area and we're the Lutheran Church not that way." Attendee events for the church must also be free of controversy. For instance, while her members might arrange Anheuser-Busch brewery tours on their own while in St. Louis, Neuman wouldn't dare take them there as a group.


Sunday nights, when even the mightiest cities slow down, can be a challenge in San Jose or San Francisco.


"Sunday is a night we don't do a lot of programming," says Paul Graller, director of conference services for the Chicago-based American Library Association. "And most cities close down. But most convention bureaus if you ask them will tell merchants, 'We're going to have 10,000 people on the streets, you better stay open.' "


If it's a smaller meeting, or a smaller downtown, the CVB might provide you and your attendees with a list of what will and won't be open. Whether you plan after-hours activities as a group or individually, advance reservations always help in the big city.


"In Kansas City or Indianapolis," Dwyer says, "cities that might not have the amount of people that live in a downtown and keep it vibrant, we tend to keep everybody indoors at night."


But "indoors" doesn't mean locked in their room. You can offer entertainment and activities at the hotel or take buses to someplace nearby. An association meeting in somewhat sleepy downtown Tampa might make arrangements to rent the Busch Gardens theme park for a few hours after dark.


The National Bar Association lets its 80 affiliated chapters tussle over where the annual convention goes each year. "We go where they want us. They have to bid for the conference," Dudley says. Then, when it comes to entertainment, the sponsoring chapter takes responsibility.


"Indianapolis was a perfect example," she says. "There's not much to do there at all. There's a small mall not far from the hotel and they close at 6. In that case, it's up to my local committee to plan things so people don't leave the city saying how boring it is."

Be honest with attendees about safety concerns
At times, some cities appear more risky than others for travelers. These things run in cycles, because one negative incident puts a city under the microscope. It's a problem and an image that has dogged Miami in recent years.


"Safety was an issue for us in Miami because of all the publicity about tourists getting shot," Graller says. "Miami did a great job, but they were under the gun . . . Well, I shouldn't have said it that way. We were a major convention and if it hadn't gone well, that would have been the end of their reputation."


Fortunately, the Miami convention went smoothly for Graller and his attendees. "We had no incidents," he says. "And we've averaged one incident everywhere else we've gone."


Margie Lewis, convention services manager for the American Welding Society in Miami, had a similar experience approaching a meeting in the Motor City. "I was a little apprehensive when we went to Detroit," she says, "because you hear so much about crime, but we did very well."


That's because she took precautions. Among the simplest tips:
Do your homework. Be aware of the environment you're bringing your people into.


Consider subscribing to the local paper from the time you book your meeting until the time it's over.


Don't explore the city alone.


Keep your hotel door locked, not just closed.


Don't hire a taxicab without some concept of where you're going, how long it takes to get there and approximately what it should cost.


Take your badge off while wandering the city. In some places, it's like wearing a bullseye for muggers and con artists.


"If they're people coming out of a small town environment," Dwyer says, "they're not aware of how to stand on a city street corner and not be vulnerable. We try to explain there's places to go and not to go." Sometimes it's as simple as knowing which door to exit the hotel. Pick the wrong exit in some cities and you're in a bad neighborhood.


On the other hand, Dwyer adds, her goal is not to scare members "because it can happen anywhere."


"We have a flyer that we send out with badges," Graller says. "It's full of safety tips for travelers. Common sense tips, but it doesn't hurt to repeat them."

Provide transportation options
There's nothing worse than getting off an airplane in a strange city and not having the first clue where to go. The most convenient mode for most airport-to-hotel transportation is the shuttle buses found in most cities.


"I really enjoy doing meetings in downtown hotels, except we don't have a lot of money and the ground transfers are very expensive," Neuman says. Of the 200 meetings she plans annually for the Lutheran Church, more than a third are held in downtown locations. "My first priority is to get my people from the airport to the hotel without problems and in a cost-effective way."


Some planners get a service provider's name, pass it on to attendees and end their participation there. But you can go further.


"I work with the destination company in the hotel," Neuman says. "I give them an arrivals and departures list so they're properly staffed. When people get there, they're expected, which gives them a warm, fuzzy feeling. A lot of our people travel frequently, but many do not. You have to make them feel they're important and they have value, that you care enough to make arrangements for them."


Negotiate group discounts. Ask for discount coupons you can mail attendees with their badges. Encourage the company to staff a desk at your primary downtown hotel to sell tickets and week-long passes.


"We run a heavy meeting schedule," Graller says. "We spend $150,000 on a shuttle system. It runs for five days, with handicapped services."

Stand ready with alternative lodging details
When your meeting is held at a resort or airport location, the answer to lodging is easy: everyone stays at the resort or airport. But one of the plusses in meeting downtown is the diversity of accommodations, usually one for every price range and taste.


"San Francisco and Chicago are a little higher than some cities," Graller says, "but the range we find usually satisfies our needs. We need to go from $70 to $150, and usually we can get that. There are very few suburban options I can think of that would meet our needs."


Most of your attendees will prefer staying at the same hotel, but a few will want something more elegant, others choosing budget-oriented lodgings. Downtowns should satisfy everyone's needs.


"Our members, librarians, are not paid very well," Graller says. "So anything we can do to help with costs, we do."


Neuman understands that challenge. Before joining the Lutheran Church as a meeting planner, she did similar work for the McDonnell-Douglas Corp. "I used to spend $250,000 on 16 people," she recalls. "Here, $1-million is my entire convention budget everything from name tags to hall rentals. It's amazing the difference. McDonnell-Douglas would pay $250 per night for sleeping rooms. At the church, the highest we've ever paid was $80 in Toronto. It's a whole different life. I tell my boss it really rounds out your resume."

Practice your haggling techniques
Everything's negotiable, Lynne Neuman says.


"There are various things a downtown hotel will do if you ask the right questions and present your group in the right light," she says. "Your cut-off date is negotiable. Your attendance rate is negotiable. Your cancellation rate is negotiable."


"In some ways," Dwyer agrees, "I think downtown hotels have to try harder on service because people think it's easier to stay at the airport. There's loads of opportunities to negotiate. They have dead time, they have empty ballrooms to fill."


She says that airport hotels do a steadier year-round business than their downtown counterparts, so it pays to know when a city is in-season or out-of-season. You can save money by choosing Houston in July, whereas the same month is peak season in Seattle.


"It's a different selling environment," Dwyer says. "I think the downtowns are very negotiable, especially if you're hitting a pattern when they're not wall-to-wall with conventions in town."
Neuman follows that suggestion whenever possible.


"I try to schedule in off-peak times," she says. "Our meetings encompass a weekend and downtowns are usually dead on weekends. We'll come in on a Thursday and leave on a Tuesday."
Don't believe the planners? Take it from the hotels.


"If an organization has the ability to be flexible, there are huge discounts that can be available," Marriott's Fenton says. "Take Sunday night arrivals. They're a huge plus for the hotel because Sunday is slow and we're willing to pass that on to the consumers."
"This isn't rocket science," the Hyatt Regency's Helms says. "To have an association meet in the first quarter in Chicago is a time you can do better not only in price but in value-added service. It's a down time for us. By contrast, there are more associations looking to do business in Chicago in October than there are available dates for five years. It's an incredible situation of supply and demand."


"Planners assume San Francisco is expensive," the Sir Francis Drake Hotel's Pucci says. "It isn't anymore."

Read contracts for hidden city costs
One of the things planners don't do a good job of planning for are city taxes for food, beverages and rooms. When you've been a planner a while, you may have a tendency to skim your contracts, missing the hidden costs of doing business downtown.


"But these are things you really need to ask about," Neuman says. "Some cities have an occupancy tax per person, per room, per night. They're really something."

Let your hotel help you
A few final tips from all over:


"Be as open and honest with your sales contact as you can be," Dwyer suggests. "What's the environment around and in the hotel? How can I sell the hotel so people aren't walking out the door? They know the area, they know what's changed since the last time you were there: 'Use the 8th Street door, not the 12th Street door.' "


"I think a lot of meeting planners may not realize that destination management companies exist and can take worries off their hands, from travel to in-room gifts and spouse trips," Marriott's Fenton says.


Send your people to the showers. "People are very health-conscious now and most downtown hotels have health clubs," the Hilton's Keys says. "So many meetings start at 7 a.m. with continental breakfast and meetings at 8 perhaps the meeting planners could schedule some health club time."


Keys says most hotels would agree to open their health clubs earlier for association members, or offer a special group rate, or lengthen continental breakfast hours so attendees don't have to choose between eating and exercise.


Another good idea from Keys: Investigate the hotel's technological resources and how they can be applied to your needs. His facility, the New York Hilton, has a voice mail system for all guests which can "broadcast" a welcome message, schedule change or announcement to all attendees. Maybe the president of the association wants to transmit a voice message to all members: "Please join me in the ballroom for dinner this evening."
"Planners don't rely on the concierge as much as they should," the Hyatt Regency's Helms offers. "It's incredible what resources these people have to move not just one or two people but hundreds of attendees. Our concierges are more than willing to help."

The Philadelphia Story
Sometimes you'll get lucky, as the American Library Association did in choosing the new Philadelphia Marriott for its February 1995 convention.


"We were the first group in the new Marriott," says Paul Graller, director of conference services for the Chicago-based American Library Association. "Philadelphia is going through a rejuvenation and the convention bureau did an outstanding job for us."


The new 1,200-room hotel opened Jan. 27. It offers a 33,000-square-foot ballroom, 38,000 square feet of exhibition space, 27 conference rooms and three boardrooms. It is also the only hotel physically connected via skybridge to the city's convention center, which opened in July 1993.


"The real benefit of this downtown is transportation," says John Fenton, director of communications for the hotel. "It's not like Denver, where the airport is an hour from downtown. Philadelphia is just eight miles from Philadelphia International Airport. There's a high-speed train from the airport to Market East Station almost at the entrance of the hotel. The fare is $5. We're the second stop from the airport. Or it's less than a $20 cab drive."


Like many of its big city cousins, Philadelphia isn't lacking in fun and cultural diversions for convention-goers. The Gallery Mall is across the street from the Marriott. Six blocks away is the city's historic district, including the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall.


"The lifeblood of this hotel is going to be national associations holding meetings here," Fenton says.

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